INTERVIEW: Fund chief Kirill Dmitriev on why Russia-Saudi relations are about more than just oil

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Updated 10 June 2019
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INTERVIEW: Fund chief Kirill Dmitriev on why Russia-Saudi relations are about more than just oil

  • CEO of Russian Direct Investment Fund explains why relations between the two countries are “the best ever”

Kirill Dmitriev was one of the bigger attractions on the “corridor of power” at the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum last week.

The chief executive of the Russian Direct Investment Fund found it difficult to walk the long central avenue of the ExpoForum center on the city’s outskirts without being stopped by journalists and quizzed about the many deals RDIF announced at the three-day event, sometimes dubbed the “Russian Davos”.

An investment banker and private equity merchant by trade, since he was appointed to the top job at RDIF in 2011 Dmitriev has emerged as one of the leading advocates of the “new” Russian economy that President Vladimir Putin is trying to forge, and a staunch defender of the country’s sometimes controversial foreign policy.

He is also a big friend of Saudi Arabia. “I think Russia now has the best relationship ever with Saudi Arabia, thanks to the efforts of President Putin, King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman,” he told Arab News during a break in his whistle-stop tour of the forum exhibits. Though he does not say so, his own efforts have also contributed significantly to the development of that relationship. For the past couple of years — since the first Future Investment Initiative conference in Riyadh in 2017 — RDIF has been in partnership with the Kingdom’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) on a range of joint investments in Russia and Saudi Arabia. Last year, that was extended to include a three-way investment fund between Russia, China and Saudi Arabia. It is big strategic stuff.

The relationship goes back further than just two years, Dmitriev revealed. “It started four or five years ago with the visit of the Crown Prince to the forum, where he met our president and our investors. It all came from that,” he said.

 

BIO

BORN

• Kiev, 1975

EDUCATION

• BA Economics Stanford University, California, US

• MBA Harvard Business School, US

CAREER

• Investment banker, Goldman Sachs

• Consultant, McKinsey & Co

• Private equity executive

• CEO Russian Direct Investment Fund

 

Business and personal relationships struck then have proved enduring. The news headlines in St. Petersburg were all about the Saudi-Russia entente in the energy industry, where the Opec+ deal to limit production has helped stabilize oil prices at a time of great volatility.

“There is no doubt that an Opec+ agreement that allows Russia, Saudi Arabia and others to stabilize oil markets can be positive, will stay in place and will be going forward regardless of any short-term decisions,” he said.

“Maybe there will be a slight increase in production, maybe it stays the same, but regardless of that short-term decision in June, Opec+ will definitely do positive things for the world economy and our countries,” he added, as energy policymakers from the Saudi and Russian sides met in St. Petersburg to hammer out production details ahead of the next meeting of oil producers later this month.

But the Saudi-Russia relationship is about more than just oil, as Dmitriev explained.

“Basically it is all encompassing. It’s not only in the area of investments, it’s not only in the area of oil, but also in terms of culture. There is an exhibit where two great Saudi artists presented their work on artificial intelligence. Who could have imagined just four years ago that two Saudi artists, both of them female, would be in a Russian exhibition on artificial intelligence?

“It shows how the world is quickly changing and it shows that Russia and Saudi Arabia are great partners,” he said, referring to a cultural exhibition that opened in the famed Hermitage museum on the first day of the forum.

Dmitriev spelled out some of the areas where Saudi and Russian interests coincide. “There is a huge opportunity for Saudi Arabia to invest in Russian infrastructure, in technology and in the petrochemicals sector. We are discussing a number of deals with Saudi Aramco through Sabic in petrochemicals.

“For Russian companies, the interest is in oil services, and we have a petrochemicals project in Saudi Arabia. In infrastructure, a Russian company has offered to build a major bridge in Saudi Arabia, and our Russian railroads want to build railways there,” he said.

There is also likely be ongoing joint interest in the field of artificial intelligence, which is a big priority area for both the Kingdom and for Russia, and could tap in to Saudi Arabia’s growing international financial network.

“We have a joint fund with PIF in technology. So that will be the vehicle to do some AI stuff as well. And by the way PIF has a great partnership with SoftBank, so that relationship is also very important,” he said.

Tourism and leisure is another area where he sees potential mutual benefit. “We believe that lots of Russian tourists would benefit from and would enjoy going to Saudi Arabia. We have a major tourism program that is very interesting for Russian tourists, including Muslim Russian tourists,” he said.

At home, RDIF’s mandate, with $10 billion of reserved capital under its management, is to invest in the country’s infrastructure — roads, bridges, airports, transport and logistics systems — in pursuit of the Russian national program to modernize and transform its economy.

Much like Saudi Arabia’s Vision 2030, Russia — the world’s biggest energy producer — realizes it must diversify its economy away from oil dependency, and has also to overcome the effect of US-led sanctions on some sections of Russian business, imposed after the annexation of Crimea in 2014.

RDIF is one of the main instruments for achieving both goals. Hitherto dependent largely on government funding, there were some suggestions at the St. Petersburg event that it could seek to widen its appeal to private sector investors — Russian and global — for the next stage of its development.

Apart from President Putin, who regularly attends the forum, the big foreign guest was President Xi Jinping of China. His presence on the same podium as Putin underlined that, as trade tensions with the West increase for both Russia and China, the two big powers are increasingly likely to seek mutual support, especially in relation to Donald Trump’s US.

Dmitriev’s position on that prospect is nuanced. “China is an important and very strategic relationship for Russia, but it’s not a tactical decision, that we think about China now when there are trade wars with the US.

“Russia has had a good relationship with China in the past — it is definitely a very strategic partner the last ten years and we have signed a number of deals with them, including with Alibaba this week. We think Russia and China can do lots of great things together, but its not a relationship of Russia and China against somebody else. Russia is open to China, to the US, to Europe and the Middle East,” he said.

There was no official American presence in St. Petersburg after the US ambassador to Moscow said he would boycott the event in protest at the detention of Michael Calvey, a big US investor in Russia, in a dispute over ownership of private equity firm Baring Vostok.

Dmitriev’s view on Calvey and the US absence was carefully worded: “Well, we see lots of investors who did come, and it’s important to have constructive dialogue. And by the way in the forum we announced a joint investment with Baring Vostok. Calvey is a very credible person.” 

There were a raft of deals announced by RDIF during the forum, some involving Middle East investors, such as an infrastructure finance agreement to help build a new ring road around congested Moscow.

Perhaps the most eye-catching one involving Arab partners was an early stage project involving RDIF and other Russian corporations with DP World of the UAE to develop sea routes in the Arctic region.

Dmitriev explained the rationale. “Because of global warming, there are some things happening that open some opportunities. Russia has this frozen coast all of the seasons. Now it’s opening up and it’s possible to navigate for nine months. When you have special ships you can actually have 12 months navigation. That could cut the length of travel for many ships by half.

“So that’s a huge opportunity to reduce time of delivery, reduce costs of delivery. DP World is one of the largest infrastructure players in the world, one of the largest shipment companies that controls a huge portion of trade. Their commitment is to build with us different port facilities in the northern sea route, and it’s an example of how interesting economically this infrastructure is,” he said.

Earlier in the week, Dmitriev had stood alongside Khalid Al-Falih, the Saudi energy minister, at the Hermitage to applaud the new-found Russian-Saudi cooperation in art and technology. What began as a relationship in the energy business had obviously blossomed into something broader.

“Through oil deals and investment deals we really build friendship and great camaraderie,” he said, before weaving his way again through the media ambushes in the forum halls.


Red Sea Global offers more than 50 leisure activities: top official

Updated 30 April 2024
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Red Sea Global offers more than 50 leisure activities: top official

RIYADH: Contrary to popular conception, sporting activities provided in the Red Sea and AMAALA are not just confined to water, but these destinations offer exciting leisure choices on land as well, said a top official. 

Speaking to Arab News at the Future Hospitality Summit, Oliver Wood, senior director of Destination Development at Red Sea Global, said the destination currently offers more than 50 activities for visitors. 

Wood said that RSG created three business entities last year — Galaxea, WAMA, and Akun. 

Galaxea provides diving experiences to visitors, while WAMA and Akun offer water activities and adventure sports respectively. 

“Galaxea is a coral that’s endemic to the Red Sea. It looks like, a kind of submarine galaxy that sits below a constellation and is beautiful. Then we created WAMA which is a way for water. And then we created Akun, which to us, is obviously ‘to be’ in the moment, start when you stand, breathe, leave everything behind,” said Wood. 

He added: “So, all three of these businesses work together to do something that will reduce the misconceived fact that we are just water. We are land as well. In fact, similar to our surroundings, our land was created by water. Fifty million years ago, the sea was 120 km inland and 200 m higher. So we’re finding dinosaur bones. We’ve got petroglyphs, we’ve got ancient trade routes.” 

According to Wood, some of the land activities offered in the Red Sea and AMAALA destinations include biking and hiking, with RSG recently delivering electric fat bikes for visitors. 

“So for us, it’s about taking you out hiking. It’s taking you biking, supercool Akun electric fat bikes that we just got delivered. So, you can go sand, and gravel wherever you want. It’s about climbing to the top of our mountains,” he added. 

The RSG executive also lauded the efforts of the Saudi Sailing Federation and the Saudi Water Sports and Diving Federation in promoting water sports in the Kingdom. 

“The Saudi Sailing Federation, Saudi Water Sports and Diving Federation, they’re bringing this sport to the forefront. So, together we’ve created this blueprint so that you have more Saudis in the water, more tourists that are going in the water,” he noted. 

Wood said that the availability of e-foils is one of the major attractions in the destination. 

“E-foils is a surfboard that’s electrified, has this fin in the middle that pushes you above the water, so you glide through it without any friction. That is one of the most popular things we do. It is really good fun,” said Wood. 

He added: “You can kayak through mangroves. And, then below the water is incredible. It’s one of the most well-preserved reefs in the world, and we’re very lucky to be working with KAUST on the scientific side.” 

According to Wood, Galaxea is not just a diving brand, but it will allow visitors to understand the beauty and value of nature. 

“There are lots of rare and endangered species beneath the water and it’s just incredible. It is a beautiful experience that allows you to reset your mind and just have a beautiful time in the Red Sea,” said the RSG official. 

He revealed that RSG brand Corallium, which is a marine life institute, will help travelers understand more about protecting, preserving, and supporting water ecosystems. 

Wood added that Corallium would also help divers communicate with experts in real-time, as they enjoy the beauty of the marine world. 

According to the RSG website, Corallium can host 650 people at one time, and guests will be able to walk underwater, snorkel with rare species, participate in lab tours as well as dive into the depths of the Red Sea in a submarine. 

“So as a diver, so you go snorkeling, you’re kind of shut off from it and experiencing it. Then you can speak to somebody afterward and understand.

 “We try and extend that a bit further. you actually get to go out in these experiences and dive with a full face mask, communicating in real-time, under the water with our team,” he noted. 

Wood also revealed that RSG has plans to create a scuba spa, where people can enjoy the silence in water. 

Talking about the multiple options available for travelers in the Red Sea, he said: “You can be in the middle of desert dunes, you can be out in granite mountains. You can even go down to volcanoes. We have incredible volcanic lava fields that sit close to us. And then you can be in the water. You can be in front of 600-year-old pillars of coral reef. You can go through caves into the water.” 

Wood also hinted that RSG is working toward offering Red Sea and AMAALA destinations to people who fall both in the luxury class and the middle range. 

“We’re trying to show generosity in the value that we offer everybody there. We’ve tried to not only benchmark globally but try and push it right down so it is accessible to everybody and so that everybody can come and really enjoy it,” said Wood. 

He added: “For me, it’s about building things around that enable people to come and get involved with it. So there are all sorts of things that we’re working on right now that will be revealed and are coming up.” 


BlackRock, PIF launch multi-asset investment management platform in Riyadh

Updated 30 April 2024
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BlackRock, PIF launch multi-asset investment management platform in Riyadh

  • First-of-its kind partnership aligns with PIF’s initiatives to drive further growth of the Saudi capital markets ecosystem, sector
  • It will be anchored by an initial investment mandate of up to $5bn from PIF

RIYADH: BlackRock Saudi Arabia and the Public Investment Fund signed a memorandum of understanding on Tuesday which entitles the former to establish a Riyadh-based multi-asset investment platform.
It will be anchored by an initial investment mandate of up to $5 billion from PIF, subject to the achievement of agreed milestones between the parties, said a media statement.
Both parties have expressed the intention to establish BlackRock Riyadh Investment Management, which will encompass investment strategies across a range of asset classes. It is expected to be managed by a Riyadh-based portfolio management team and supported by BlackRock’s global asset management platform.
Larry Fink, BlackRock’s CEO, said: “We are excited to build on the deep partnership we have developed with PIF over many years to launch this first-of-its-kind international investment management platform in Saudi Arabia.
“The continued growth of the Kingdom’s capital markets, and diversification of its financial sector, will contribute to future prosperity for its citizens, the competitiveness of its companies and the resilience of its economy.”
Saudi Arabia has become an increasingly attractive destination for international investment as Vision 2030 comes to life, according to Fink.
He added: “We are pleased to offer investors from around the world the opportunity to take part in this exciting, long-term opportunity.”
Yazeed Al-Humied, PIF’s deputy governor and head of MENA (Middle East and North Africa) Investments, said: “PIF’s relationship with BlackRock is well established and growing. This new landmark agreement represents a step forward in PIF’s work in making the Saudi investment and asset management market more internationally diverse and more dynamic.”
As Saudi Arabia continues to transform its economy, BRIM will seek to support foreign institutional investment into the Kingdom and further enhance the Saudi asset management industry, broadening local capital markets while driving investor diversification across asset classes, facilitating knowledge sharing and the development of Saudi-based asset management talent.
BRIM will be fully integrated with BlackRock’s investment capabilities and operating platform, benefiting from global market expertise.
The non-binding memorandum is subject to satisfying certain necessary conditions, regulatory approvals, and fulfilling specified milestones.


Hospitality brands sign deals to expand in Saudi market

Updated 30 April 2024
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Hospitality brands sign deals to expand in Saudi market

RIYADH: Top hospitality brands signed deals at the Future Hospitality Summit in Riyadh to capitalize on the opportunities available in the Kingdom.

France-based Accor Group said it will strengthen its position in the Kingdom with the addition of more than 25,000 rooms and the launch of a wide variety of brands.

The global hospitality group also recently launched Accor One Living, an initiative offering specialized knowledge in mixed-use and branded residential development.

Ladun Investment Co. signed an agreement with Cheval Collection. The partnership encompasses multiple contracts for the construction and operation of Cheval Ladun Living, which is a hotel apartment tower located on King Fahd Road, near the King Abdullah Financial Center in Riyadh.

The deal represents Cheval Collection’s inaugural project in Saudi Arabia, featuring 130 residential units of varying sizes, from one to three rooms, alongside amenities like a gym, a swimming pool, and a sauna.

The project’s construction is scheduled to begin this year and will be completed in 2027.

Marriott International, Inc. and Al Qimmah Hospitality, a subsidiary of BinDawood Trading, signed an agreement to bring the JW Marriott brand to Jeddah.

Located on the Jeddah Corniche, the hotel is expected to become a prime destination for luxury-seeking travelers who desire a waterfront escape.

“The signing of JW Marriott Hotel Jeddah continues to reflect the strong growth opportunities for our luxury brands across the Kingdom. As part of the country’s Vision 2030 framework, Jeddah continues to build itself as a leisure and business destination,” Chadi Hauch, regional vice president of Marriott International, development of the Middle East, said in a press statement.

On behalf of Al Qimmah Hospitality, Abdul Razzaq BinDawood commented: “We will leverage our expertise and experience in the retail and hospitality sectors to make JW Marriott Hotel Jeddah a successful addition to the city’s landscape.” 

Baheej Tourism Development Co., a joint venture between ASFAR, the Saudi tourism investment company owned by the Public Investment Fund, and the Tamimi-AWN Alliance, signed a deal with Kerten Hospitality.

The agreement grants Kerten Hospitality management of Baheej’s hotel in Yanbu under the premium Cloud 7 brand.

Cloud 7 is an innovative hotel and residential lifestyle brand, recognized for its designs, check-in lobbies, healthy food options, and retail boutiques.

“Baheej’s collaboration with Kerten Hospitality underlines our core principle: empowering partners and subsidiaries through our expansive network,” Fahad bin Mushayt, CEO of ASFAR said.

The PIF-owned company also signed agreements with Mantis and KMC to manage the operations of Al Baha Mountain Lodge & Adventure Park.


Cashless payments in Saudi Arabia to rise by 7.6% in 2024

Updated 30 April 2024
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Cashless payments in Saudi Arabia to rise by 7.6% in 2024

RIYADH: Cashless payments in Saudi Arabia are expected to surge by 7.6 percent in 2024 to SR550 billion ($146.8 billion) as compared to SR511.5 billion the previous year, a report said.

The report issued by GlobalData, a London-based data analytics and consulting company, projected the Saudi card payments market to grow at an annual rate of 6.4 percent between 2024 and 2028 to reach SR705.2 billion. 

The uptick comes amid the Saudi government’s push for a cashless society by encouraging consumers to switch to cards for financial transactions.

“While cash has traditionally been a preferred method of payment in Saudi Arabia, its usage is on the decline in line with the rising consumer preference for electronic payments,” said Ravi Sharma, a lead banking and payments analyst at GlobalData. 

He added: “The country has a robust digital payment infrastructure, supported by a developing card market and a well-established card acceptance infrastructure.” 

Sharma further noted that Saudi Arabia’s government is taking effective steps to enhance the infrastructure in the country by encouraging merchants to adopt at least one electronic payment option apart from cash. 

The report, however, added that cash remains an integral part of the Saudi consumer payments landscape, particularly for lower-value transactions, but the usage of hard currency is showing signs of decline. 

Promoting digital payments is crucial for Saudi Arabia, as the Kingdom’s Vision 2030 aims to reduce cash transactions and increase the share of electronic payments to 70 percent of all transactions by 2025.

“The (COVID-19) pandemic changed the way Saudi consumers make payments, with an increasing number of consumers preferring contactless payments,” said Sharma. 

He added: “Contactless cards have been on the rise in the country with the Saudi Arabian central bank reporting 363.4 million transactions using NFC-enabled mada cards in February 2024 compared to 331.7 million in February 2023.” 

In terms of card preference, debit cards dominate the overall card payment space, accounting for 85 percent of the overall card payment value in 2023. 

GlobalData pointed out that the government’s financial inclusion initiatives, consumers’ preference for debt-free payments, and prudent consumer spending have resulted in the domination of debit cards in the Kingdom. 

“Saudi consumers are gradually embracing electronic payments, moving away from cash, supported by government push, improvements in payment infrastructure, growing consumer awareness, and rising adoption of newer technology like contactless,” added Sharma. 

In April, data released by the Saudi Central Bank revealed that payments made through point-of-sale terminals in the Kingdom experienced a significant 20 percent annual increase in February, totaling SR53.72 billion. 

The largest portion of POS spending in February was allocated to beverages and food, comprising 15.7 percent or SR8.43 billion. 

This was followed by spending on restaurants and cafes, accounting for 15 percent of the total, reaching SR8.02 billion. 


Saudi Arabia, China discuss collaboration in urban development during Beijing meeting

Updated 30 April 2024
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Saudi Arabia, China discuss collaboration in urban development during Beijing meeting

RIYADH: Saudi Arabia and China stand to gain by sharing expertise in city planning, sustainable urban development, and construction technology as officials from both sides met in Beijing.   

Saudi Minister of Municipal and Rural Affairs and Housing Majid Al-Hogail and Chinese Minister of Housing and Urban-Rural Development Ni Hong held discussions to explore cooperation opportunities in developing housing policies and programs for residential communities. 

This move extends from the Chinese President’s visit to the Kingdom in December 2022 and the agreements signed between the two nations during that time. 

Following the meeting in Beijing, Al-Hogail stated in a post on X: “Our leaders have completed an agreement on the importance of strengthening the partnership and aligning Saudi Vision 2030 with the Belt and Road Initiative, which will reflect positively on the aspirations and economic standing of Saudi Arabia and China globally.”  

He added: “We are working to enhance fruitful cooperation between the two countries in various fields including developing urban areas and attracting the best Chinese construction companies to benefit from their expertise in enhancing housing units in various regions of the Kingdom, with the aim of achieving the goals of the housing program — one of the programs of the Kingdom’s Vision 2030 — by providing various housing and financing options for citizens.”  

Furthermore, the two countries reviewed successful experiences in providing housing solutions and options, along with enhancing opportunities for citizens to own homes. They also discussed ways to facilitate the exchange of experiences in urban management and the application of best practices in this regard. 

The meeting was part of an official visit by Al-Hogail to the Chinese capital. During his visit, he is scheduled to meet with senior officials in the Chinese government, heads of construction companies, and banks to strengthen the partnership in the construction sector. The trip also aims to attract top international companies in real estate development.