WASHINGTON: US and Russian participants have met in Switzerland for unofficial talks about the Ukraine war in recent months, including as recently as last week, three sources with knowledge of the matter said.
While the attendees have diplomatic and security experience, they are not government officials and it was not immediately clear if any were sent by their governments, two of the sources said. The sources declined to identify the attendees. The sources described the talks as a side channel with some contacts occurring during the transition period following US President Donald Trump’s Nov. 5 election victory.
At least a small number of advisers to Trump are aware of the encounters, said one of the sources, who had direct knowledge of the matter.
Many other details remain unclear, including whether Ukrainians were present, when the encounters began and what the meetings’ agendas covered.
But the previously undisclosed meetings highlight behind-the-scenes US and Russian efforts to explore ways to end the Ukraine war despite a near-freeze on official contact under Trump’s predecessor, former President Joe Biden. Trump, in office for just a month, has upended the US approach toward the three-year-old Ukraine conflict, engaging directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin and pushing for a quick deal to end the war. On Tuesday, top US officials met with Russian officials in Saudi Arabia, including Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
One of the sources described the Switzerland talks as “Track Two” discussions — diplomatic parlance for unofficial dialogue geared toward improving communication and floating ideas, rather than developing concrete proposals.
The White House National Security Council, the Ukrainian government and Russia’s foreign ministry did not respond to requests for comment.
The Swiss foreign ministry said meetings are regularly held in Switzerland between parties involved in the Ukraine conflict on a Track Two basis, and that it was informed of them.
Organized by non-state actors, they enabled exchanges not directly involving governments, it said in a statement.
“These activities help to sustain diplomatic efforts relating to the conflict,” the ministry said.
Two of the sources said at least one encounter took place in Geneva during last week’s Munich Security Conference, a gathering of international political leaders and security chiefs in the German city. Reuters reported last year on separate Track Two talks in 2023 and early 2024, when Putin sent signals that he was willing to consider a ceasefire in Ukraine. Those talks appeared to come to nothing.
Historically, Track Two talks have helped build dialogue among deeply distrustful counterparties in the hope that better communication might lead to diplomatic breakthroughs.
In 2023, NBC reported that former US national security officials held secret talks with Russians believed to be close to the Kremlin, with some members eventually meeting with Lavrov, the foreign minister.
One of the sources suggested Track Two talks may have lost much of their relevance as US and Russian officials have established official channels of dialogue in recent weeks.
Americans, Russians have discussed Ukraine war through Swiss side channel, sources say
Americans, Russians have discussed Ukraine war through Swiss side channel, sources say
- Talks described as ‘Track Two’ conversations
- Attendees not government officials, unclear if they were sent by governments
German school students rally against army recruitment drive
BERLIN: Thousands of German teenagers skipped school Thursday to join protests against a stepped-up military recruitment drive that many fear may in future involve a form of conscription.
About 3,000 students gathered on Berlin’s Potsdamer Platz square, with smaller demonstrations held across Germany as part of a nationwide “school strike.”
“I don’t see why anyone should have to go to the front lines for politicians,” Alex Krzeszka, a 15-year-old student, told AFP at the Berlin rally.
“I don’t see it as morally right, and I think war should never be the solution. Problems should be solved diplomatically.”
Germany, like other European countries, has sought to build up its armed forces in response to Russia’s 2022 full-scale invasion of Ukraine and the threat of further aggression against NATO members.
Chancellor Friedrich Merz has vowed to turn the Bundeswehr into Europe’s largest conventional army, banking initially on a voluntary recruitment drive.
The government this year started requiring all 18-year-old men to fill out questionnaires about their interest and fitness for short-term military service.
Women are also being asked to fill out the forms, but cannot be compelled to do so under current German law.
Among the signs being waved by protesters in Berlin was a poster that read “We are not cannon fodder” while another demanded: “Send Friedrich Merz to the front line!” For now at least, German lawmakers have decided against bringing back mandatory conscription, which Germany suspended in 2011. But some politicians have expressed doubts about whether ambitious recruiting targets can be achieved without some from of conscription.
BACKGROUND
The government this year started requiring all 18-year-old men to fill out questionnaires about their interest and fitness for short-term military service.
Plans call for strengthening the Bundeswehr from about 185,000 active-duty troops now to 260,000 by 2030, while roughly quadrupling the size of the reserves to 200,000.
The Bundeswehr shrank dramatically after the end of the Cold War as countries across Europe slashed defense budgets.
In the 1980s, West Germany alone had fielded a military of nearly 500,000 troops.
“I think they should definitely advertise for the Bundeswehr, but it absolutely shouldn’t be compulsory,” Leander Martinez, a 16-year-old student from Berlin, told AFP.
“Reintroducing conscription is nothing other than rearmament,” Leon Reinemann, a student who helped organize the school strike in the western city of Koblenz, told broadcaster NTV.
He defended the fact students were skipping classes, saying that “a single day of absence from school is significantly less serious than six months in the barracks.”
Others took a more staunchly pacifist stance at the Berlin demonstration.
“I’m against conscription and against war propaganda,” Tillmann, a 19-year-old student who declined to give his last name, told AFP.
“And I think murdering someone is always wrong, even if the state says that someone should be murdered. There’s nothing more important than human life.”
