Pakistan and Indonesia closing in on jets and drones defense deal — officials

Military officials gather around Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder aircraft and other ammunition during International Defence Exhibition and Seminar (IDEAS) 2022 at the Expo Centre in Karachi on November 16, 2022. (AFP/ file)
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Updated 12 January 2026
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Pakistan and Indonesia closing in on jets and drones defense deal — officials

  • Interest in the Pakistani military’s weapons development program has surged since its jets were deployed in a four-day conflict with India last year
  • The JF-17s have been at the center of that growing attention, figuring in a deal with Azerbaijan and a $4 billion weapons pact with Libyan National Army

ISLAMABAD/JAKARTA: Indonesia’s defense minister met Pakistan’s air force chief in Islamabad ​to discuss a potential deal that includes the sale of combat jets and killer drones to Jakarta, three security officials with knowledge of the meeting on Monday said.

The talks come as Pakistan’s defense industry moves forward with a series of defense procurement negotiations, including deals with Libya’s National Army and Sudan’s army, and looks to establish itself as a sizable regional player.

Indonesia’s Defense Ministry confirmed the meeting between Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin and Pakistan’s Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu.

“The meeting focused on discussing general defense cooperation relations, including strategic dialogue, strengthening communication between defense institutions, ‌and opportunities for mutually ‌beneficial cooperation in various fields in the long term,” defense ‌ministry ⁠spokesperson Brig. ​General ‌Rico Ricardo Sirait told Reuters, adding the talks had not yet led to concrete decisions.

One source said the talks revolved around the sale of JF-17 jets, a multi-role combat aircraft jointly developed by Pakistan and China, and killer drones designed for surveillance and striking targets. The other two sources said the talks were in an advanced stage and involved more than 40 JF-17 jets. One of them said Indonesia was also interested in Pakistan’s Shahpar drones.

The sources did not share any discussions about delivery timelines and ⁠the number of years a proposed deal would span.

The Pakistani military’s public relations wing did not immediately respond to a ‌request for comment.

INDONESIA REPLACING AGEING AIR FORCE FLEET

One additional security ‍source with knowledge of military procurement talks said ‍Pakistan was discussing the sale of JF-17 Thunder jets, air defense systems, training for ‍junior, mid-level, and senior Indonesian air force officials, and engineering staff.

“The Indonesia deal is in the pipeline,” retired Air Marshal Asim Suleiman, who remains briefed on air force deals, told Reuters, adding that the number of JF-17 jets involved was close to 40.

Indonesia’s President Prabowo Subianto was in Pakistan last month for a two-day visit ​for talks on improving bilateral ties, including defense.

Indonesia has put in a slew of orders for jets in the past few years, including 42 French Rafale jets ⁠worth $8.1 billion in 2022 and 48 KAAN fighter jets from Turkiye last year to strengthen its air force and replace its aging air force fleet.

Jakarta has also considered buying China’s J-10 fighter jets and is in talks to purchase US-made F-15EX jets.

PAKISTAN’S RISING DEFENCE INDUSTRY

Interest in the Pakistani military’s weapons development program has surged since its jets were deployed in a short conflict with India last year.

The JF-17s have been at the center of that growing attention, figuring in a deal with Azerbaijan and the $4 billion weapons pact with the Libyan National Army. Pakistan is also eyeing a defense pact with Bangladesh that could include the Super Mushshak training jets and JF-17s, as ties improve with Dhaka.

Reuters has also reported that Islamabad was in talks with Riyadh for a defense deal that could be ‌worth between $2 billion and $4 billion and involves the conversion of Saudi loans into military supplies.


After Karachi mall fire kills 73, burned remains turn recovery into forensic nightmare

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After Karachi mall fire kills 73, burned remains turn recovery into forensic nightmare

  • Extreme heat, structural collapse and fragmented bodies slow identification, prolonging anguish for dozens of families
  • Limited disaster-forensics capacity leaves Pakistani authorities relying on DNA, bone analysis and mobile records

ISLAMABAD: Over a week after a catastrophic fire killed at least 73 people at Karachi’s Gul Plaza shopping complex, authorities are grappling with a grim reality: many victims are so badly burned that identifying them has become a forensic ordeal, leaving dozens of families trapped in agonizing uncertainty.

Officials say around 73 sets of human remains have been recovered from the site of the January 17 blaze, but only 23 victims have been formally identified. In many cases, intense heat inside the enclosed commercial building destroyed soft tissue and degraded DNA, reducing bodies to fragments that complicate both recovery and forensic confirmation.

“Unfortunately, in some cases only body remains were recovered, and those remains were in such a condition that when touched they were turning into powder,” said Daniyal Siyal, a spokesperson for the Karachi Metropolitan Corporation.

Globally, fires in densely packed, multi-story commercial buildings are among the most difficult disasters to investigate. Prolonged exposure to extreme temperatures can destroy DNA, collapse reinforced concrete floors and fuse human remains with debris. Even in countries with advanced disaster victim identification systems, such conditions often delay confirmation for weeks or months.

In Pakistan, where urban fires are frequent but forensic disaster response capacity remains limited, those challenges are compounded.

Gul Plaza housed more than 1,200 shops stacked vertically, with narrow stairwells, limited ventilation and heavy electrical loads. Rescue officials say the structure acted like a furnace, trapping heat and toxic gases long after flames were brought under control.

As a result, recovery operations quickly shifted from rescue to retrieval, and from retrieval to painstaking forensic work.

SCIENCE AS THE LAST HOPE

All recovered remains have been transferred to medico-legal facilities, where Karachi Police Surgeon Dr. Summaiya Syed is overseeing the identification process.

Only seven victims have been identified through facial recognition or identity documents recovered from pockets. For most families, science is now the only path to closure.

“The challenges that we are facing here are because of the heat damage that has been done to the body, to the remains,” Dr. Syed told Arab News. “In this instance, it is particularly challenging because the bodies are burnt to the extent that most of the DNA is unsalvageable.”

Forensic teams have collected samples from 45 deceased individuals and 54 reference samples from family members. But when DNA testing fails, a common outcome in prolonged high-temperature fires, investigators must rely on secondary methods.

“We hope that they are identifiable but if they aren’t by DNA, we have the anthropological measurements, anthropological data, CDR records and proof of presence to fall back on,” Dr. Syed said.

Those methods include bone analysis to estimate age and height, mobile phone call detail records placing individuals inside the building, and personal effects recovered from specific locations within the debris.

Earlier this week, a senior official involved in recovery efforts, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the process itself had further complicated identification.

According to the official, heavy excavators operated by untrained workers were used to clear debris, resulting in bags of remains that sometimes contained mismatched limbs. In some instances, the official said, remains counted as a single body weighed only three kilograms.

FAMILIES WAITING WITHOUT CLOSURE

Outside the destroyed plaza and at Karachi’s medico-legal facilities, families of the missing continue to wait after submitting DNA samples.

Rehman Khan, the uncle of 22-year-old victim Muhammad Arif, spent four days at the site of the inferno. He eventually joined rescue teams himself, helping pull nearly 30 sets of remains from the rubble.

He believed one of them was his nephew, but all were beyond recognition.

“Now for the past two or three days, we have been coming here in the morning and sitting here until evening,” Khan said.

“Now if we even get a body, that would be a very big thing. The chances of life itself have ended.”

Among those still unaccounted for is 18-year-old salesman Ibrar Akram, whose family says he died trying to help others escape.

“He was showing them the way,” his cousin Farhan Hafeez told Arab News.

Hafeez, who survived the blaze after escaping from his own shop in the building’s basement, said Akram helped at least four people find an exit before turning back inside.

“He went back inside and did not come back,” he said. “Today, it has been seven days since he went missing. What is the government doing?”

For Akram’s mother, Afsari Begum, the technical explanations offer no relief.

“I don’t want anything. I just want my Ibrar,” she said, her voice breaking down. 

Indeed, for families still waiting, the plea has narrowed to one request: dignity.

“Do not give us a body in pieces,” Hafeez said. “Give us our loved one whole, so that we at least know it is ours.”

A fact-finding committee appointed by the Sindh chief minister is investigating the cause of the fire, though its report has not yet been released. Authorities say facilities and resources are available to complete identification.

“We have facilities available here in Karachi, and we also have a DNA laboratory in Hyderabad. There is no issue regarding resources. All necessary resources are available to us,” Siyal said.